vt 220's 16mm camera info...

[Alex]

I found VT's answer to a 16mm question on another forum to be quite useful. (It reminds me of the Nizo camera model descriptions I just posted about yesterday).

Since we don't get many 16mm questions here, I thought I'd give VT some props for knowing about this stuff.

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quote [img]redface.gif[/img] riginally posted by sharonhardy:
Is it possible to buy a decent used 16mm camera for approx $3000 - 5000? I've seen Bolexes and the Bealieu R16 for cheap, but are [...]
but would ideally like the option to record sound,
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Also, is Super 16 recommended, or is regular 16mm just fine? Can you get a Super 16 camera for that price anyway?

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answer by vt220

the bealieu r16 is nice, and electric (critical) but it sounds like a a food processor with bits of metal in it, so that's out if you want to record sound.

you've got a couple options for sync sound cameras:

cp16
made by cinema products in the us, light and fairly cheap - well within your price range. kinda cheaply constructed though. these were workhorse news cameras in the 70's. can be converted to super 16.

eclair npr
a french camera, i hate these cameras. the form factor is bizarre and annoying. can be converted to super 16.

arri 16bl
made by arriflex. these cameras are sorta heavy, have awesome registration, come with fairly sharp zooms. the prices have really gone down on these. accessories are plentiful - arri is pretty ubiquitous. i have one of these and it has served me well over the years. can not be easily converted to super 16 though.

eclair acl
a super camera, lightweight and small. if you look for this camera, try to get the second revision, the first one has flakier electronics/motor stuff. easily convertable to super 16.

there are other cameras, such as aaton ltr54 and the arri sr, but they are out of your $5000 cap (normally.)

i'd get a 16bl or an eclair acl standard 16 for less than 3K and use the rest of your budget for film.

hope that helps.

-vt220

[Greg Crawford]

Two of my 16 mm camera are down. and my one and only 35 mm camera is also out of service.

My CP-16 non reflex needs a new claw, it's over a grand for the repair. Plus since this is not a reflex it can not be up-graded to Super 16.

My Arri 2-A need repair, claw does not pull the film through the camera may be a simple repair. I have two motors neater works right. One is to fast and the other two slow.

My 1954 Revere, is out of registration. The camera has two turn screws, I am wondering if this would be how to adjust it back into registration? Any ideas?

The question regarding the other two cameras what to do, which to fix first. Sell for parts...what?

[vt220]

Originally posted by Greg_C:
The question regarding the other two cameras what to do, which to fix first. Sell for parts...what?

<font size="2.0" face="verdana, sans-serif">sounds like it's time to start a cool-cameras-only-for-display shelf.

doh!

[Greg Crawford]

Recently I have been using the CP-16 as a daylight film winding machine. Taking 400 pancakes and braking them into 100 daylight rolls,

It does a fine job!

[vt220]

Originally posted by Greg_C:
Recently I have been using the CP-16 as a daylight film winding machine. Taking 400 pancakes and braking them into 100 daylight rolls,

It does a fine job!

<font size="2.0" face="verdana, sans-serif">that's cool. so, that must mea you have a 16mm camera that works, yeah? whatcha shooting?

[Mike Buckles]

I use my regular 8mm cameras as display pieces, since I don't shoot reg 8 anymore. (a couple of brownies, a revere, and a bell and howell, and a Technicolor super 8 projector.) Gives a room a really nice "retro" look!

[Alex]

Is your collection "Area 54" off-limits, or do you allow handling, fondling, and gasp, rewinding and running of the camera by others?